Hill Walkers - Frequently Asked Questions
I have “topped up” my original “Bridge” list (for example) of the 2000-foot hills of England & Wales by bagging only those Nuttalls (for example) that are not on the list of “Bridges”, so that I have also completed the Nuttalls as well. Do I have to send in a Claim Form to inform you of this?
I have just completed my round of Wainwrights (for example) and enjoyed the experience of planning my hill expeditions and climbing all those summits so very much, that I would like to share it with others. Can I submit some photographs and a short report of my exploits?
A. By far the best source is now the on-line Database of British and Irish Hills (DoBIH). This covers all ten Registers, and in most cases gives several sources for each one.
Otherwise, full references to the various accepted hill lists are given in these web pages. Some of the references are now out of print, but can often be obtained from second-hand booksellers (do a search online). Some hill lists have been substantially changed after publication, following further research and surveying of hills. The most altered list is that of the Deweys, Register 5A. The original published list was of 373 tops, but this has now risen to 426 summits. The full list has never been published in hard copy form, but for a current list of the Deweys, and if you can't download it from DoBIH, please request one from the Recorder: sorry, only an electronic list is available, sent as an Excel email attachment. Many changes to the lists (usually as a result of re-surveying) which relate to the Registers will be published annually in the HR Report.
A. No. There is no requirement to take out membership of the LDWA in order to enter the Registers. However, only current LDWA members will receive the Annual HR Report.
A. You can download a HR Claim Form from this website. Alternately, please send a SAE to the Recorder with a request for a Claim Form (only one form will be sent - please photocopy the form before you begin filling it in, if you need more than one Claim Form).
A. To help prevent errors creeping into the Registers, please post a hard copy of each Claim Form to the Recorder. It makes life so much easier for the Recorder to have hard copies of all Claim Forms, rather than hard copies of most, but a few others stored electronically on his PC. If you would like a certificate or badge, and around 75% of those who enter the Registers request a commemorative certificate of their achievement, then you will have to post a cheque to the Recorder in any case. Finally, and most importantly, entry on a Register is voluntary, and only with the consent of the claimant. Therefore, in order for the claimant to give permission for his or her name and summit details to be entered online on the Registers, it is essential for the claimant to sign his or her Claim Form and post it to the Recorder. Sorry, but if no hard copy of a Claim Form is received by the Recorder, then your entry will not be added to the Register. Compared with the effort of completing any of the hill lists on the Register, filling in a Claim Form is an extremely minor chore indeed !
A. No - for the reasons given in the previous answer. When the Recorder needs to look back to previous claims (which is surprisingly common), it is so helpful to have all claims in a common format.
A. Certainly not ! Very, very few people will have proof that they have climbed all the summits on any list of hills. Your total honesty is assumed. Anyone silly enough to make a false claim will be not only be making a hollow, deceitful boast, but will also run the risk of ridicule should his or her deception ever be discovered.
A. For similar reasons to the answer to the fourth question above, a Claim Form must be completed and posted to the Recorder for second and all subsequent rounds of a hill list.
A. Yes. In order to prevent errors appearing in the Registers, which are often very time-consuming for the Recorder to correct, it is necessary to send in one Claim Form per person and one Claim Form per Register. It only takes a few minutes to complete the Claim Form. Forms from two or more different claimants may be sent in one envelope.
A. People who started hillwalking or peakbagging when they were much younger often cannot remember the exact date on which they climbed the first summit on a particular list, so do not worry if you cannot recall this. It is preferable to give the exact list completion date if possible, otherwise “month/year” or simply “year” will be accepted (for completions within the last three years, simply stating “year” as the completion date on the Claim Form is not however acceptable - most people should recall this special day in their lives, but surprisingly, several people send in very vague completion dates). Please enter the names of the first and last summits on the Claim Form (very few people cannot recall these). Those who give only “month/year” will be appear in the Registers at the end of that month, after all those who give an actual date for that month and year. Similarly, those who state only “year” will be appear in the Registers at the very end of that year, after all those who give an actual date and after those who gave only December (but no day) of that year.
A. Yes. There are no time limits to making a claim, and many that appear in the Registers were made as retrospective claims. Currently, all claims reported in a calendar year will appear in the Annual Report for that year - but of course this could change if the publication timetable for Strider changed. But please, don't leave it until late December to submit your claim. At that time of year it is all too easy to overlook things !
A. Entry to the HR Register is free, but those wishing to receive a commemorative certificate (or certificates) of their achievement(s) are requested to send a cheque for £3.00 per certificate to the Recorder (this fee includes postage and posting in a large stiff-backed envelope). HR cloth badges, suitable for sewing onto a rucksack, cost £1.50. Cheques should be made payable to "LDWA".
A. If you request a certificate or badge along with your claim, then please accept receipt of these as your acknowledgement. If you make no request for either, but wish to receive an acknowledgement that your claim has been received, then please request an email acknowledgement clearly on your Claim Form, or send a SAE to request one.
A. The Recorder will normally deal within two or three weeks (often faster). However, surprisingly enough, he is himself a hillwalker and so is sometimes away from home for a few weeks ! It would be appreciated if you didn't start chasing until a month has elapsed.
If you need the certificate by a specific date, e.g. for a celebratory dinner, it would be sensible to email the Recorder so that he can let you know if there are any difficulties.
Note that you will always appear on the Register before your certificate is despatched, and your cheque will never be cashed before then - though sometimes cashing of the cheque and despatch of the certificate take place simultaneously !
A. The Hillwalkers’ Registers contain only the names of those who have completed the various lists together with their completion details. No contact or other personal details appear on the Registers.
A. Select the relevant Register’s web page. The names are listed in date of completion order. Click against your name. The details of your entry on that Register will be displayed, together with your entries on any other of the Hillwalkers’ Registers for which you have submitted a claim.
A. The third box on the Claim Form states: “Name that you wish to be recorded in the Register and on your Certificate. Please complete this box, ...)”. If you do not fill in this box then you will be recorded with your full names on both the Register and your Certificate. Do please also fill in your full names in the first and second boxes on the Claim Form, to prevent errors being made by the Recorder - there are many “Smiths”, etc, in this world ! Provided that the third box on the form is completed, then only the name given there will appear on the Register.
If this has already happened to you, then email the Recorder and it will be sorted out.
A. The Hillwalkers’ Register Annual Report is published and despatched to current LDWA members every year with the April edition of the LDWA magazine Strider. The names of all those who successfully made a claim during the year are published in the Report. The Report, usually 24 A5 pages in length, also contains new hill lists, articles, photographs and many other items of interest to the hillwalker and peakbagger.
A. No. But if you wish to do so, that is your choice. For the purposes of the Registers, one visit to any peak can be counted as a visit to that hill for any list on which it appears.
Q. I have “topped up” my original “Bridge” list (for example) of the 2000-foot hills of England & Wales by bagging only those Nuttalls (for example) that are not on the list of “Bridges”, so that I have also completed the Nuttalls as well. Do I have to send in a Claim Form to inform you of this?
A. Please inform the Recorder of the fact, but by email (or letter). If you send in a Claim Form for this, then please mark the form very clearly as a “top-up” for a second list (otherwise you might appear to have completed a second round.
Q. I have just completed my round of Wainwrights (for example) and enjoyed the experience of planning my hill expeditions and climbing all those summits so very much that I would like to share it with others. Can I submit some photographs and a short report of my exploits?
A. The Recorder is always in need of photos of hillwalkers and mountain landscapes to illustrate the HR Annual Report that is published with the April edition of Strider. Photos showing completion celebrations held on the final summit of a list of hills are particularly sought. Articles on any aspect of hillwalking and peakbagging are also very welcome for possible inclusion in the Annual Report; aim for 800 to 1000 words please, but we can always handle shorter articles and often longer ones. If you have a special story to tell (to give just one possible example, you climbed your first mountain over 2000ft in height whilst still a young child and completed the last peak in the Nuttalls list of hills at the grand old age of 85) that would be particularly appreciated.
Please send articles as Word documents attached to an email (or in the body of the email if you don't have Word software). Please send photos as attachments to an email in jpg format. For safety, please don't send more than two photos with any one email. These days, the chances that you can't handle Word or jpg are remote, but if that is the case please contact the Recorder and we will sort something out.
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